{"id":1860,"date":"2014-05-16T06:58:08","date_gmt":"2014-05-16T06:58:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.migflug.com\/jetflights\/?p=1860"},"modified":"2026-03-31T22:38:47","modified_gmt":"2026-03-31T20:38:47","slug":"p-i-r-a-t-e-versus-raptor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/migflug.com\/jetflights\/p-i-r-a-t-e-versus-raptor\/","title":{"rendered":"P.I.R.A.T.E versus Raptor"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor has long been claimed to be the best air superiority fighter ever built, even before it was completed, American officials claimed that with its stealth technology it would outperform any fighter that stood in its way without even being seen. But has this changed since its introduction in 1997?<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/youtu.be\/CneqtCyA6zg<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The F-22 is undoubtedly a very capable fighter, but since its introduction in 1997, new competitors have emerged, numerous generation 4.5 jets have been built by Russia, the US, France, and Germany. Therefore even though the Raptor is an extremely good fighter, every fighter has flaws that others can take advantage of, one fighter which is capable of using the F-22\u2019s weakness is the German Eurofighter Typhoon. This is what I am going to debate in this article.<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Properties of the German generation 4.5+<\/h2>\n<div id=\"attachment_3630\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img data-opt-id=1566311205  fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3630\" class=\"wp-image-3630 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/ml5psubhxdln.i.optimole.com\/cb:0e0_.b970\/w:300\/h:200\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/migflug.com\/jetflights\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/05\/Eurofighter_DA2_MOD_45132077.jpg\" alt=\"EUROFIGHTER DA 2 during flight trials in 1999 prior to acceptance. - Photo: Sgt Jack Pritchard, RAF\/MOD\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ml5psubhxdln.i.optimole.com\/cb:0e0_.b970\/w:300\/h:200\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/migflug.com\/jetflights\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/05\/Eurofighter_DA2_MOD_45132077.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ml5psubhxdln.i.optimole.com\/cb:0e0_.b970\/w:768\/h:512\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/migflug.com\/jetflights\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/05\/Eurofighter_DA2_MOD_45132077.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ml5psubhxdln.i.optimole.com\/cb:0e0_.b970\/w:1024\/h:683\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/migflug.com\/jetflights\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/05\/Eurofighter_DA2_MOD_45132077.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ml5psubhxdln.i.optimole.com\/cb:0e0_.b970\/w:1080\/h:720\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/migflug.com\/jetflights\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/05\/Eurofighter_DA2_MOD_45132077.jpg 1080w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3630\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">EUROFIGHTER DA 2 during flight trials in 1999 prior to acceptance. &#8211; Photo: Sgt Jack Pritchard, RAF\/MOD<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The EF Typhoon is a 4.5 generation multirole fighter which was introduced in 2003 by its creators BAE Systems, Airbus Group and Alenia Aermacchi where it showed off a delta wing setup with canards and a brand new twin engine. The reason for it not to be a generation 5 fighter is the fact that it does not have stealth properties. But what it does have which it was very new with when it came is its P.I.R.A.T.E &#8211; IRST (InfraRedSearchandTrack) system. This picks up heat changes around it and can by this spot subsonic aircraft as far away as up to 100km+(The Germans say). This means that the Typhoon can still shoot its advanced IR-tracking missiles at a target, even though its enemy has stealth features.<\/p>\n<p><iframe hcb-fetch-image-from=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/LWxSsp7Ogyk\" title=\"Thales UK | Air Group | PIRATE\" width=\"1080\" height=\"608\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/LWxSsp7Ogyk?feature=oembed\"  allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Features of the stealth king<\/h2>\n<div id=\"attachment_3632\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img data-opt-id=242187289  fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3632\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3632\" src=\"https:\/\/ml5psubhxdln.i.optimole.com\/cb:0e0_.b970\/w:300\/h:215\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/migflug.com\/jetflights\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/05\/F-22_27th-Raptor.jpg\" alt=\"Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor\" width=\"300\" height=\"215\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ml5psubhxdln.i.optimole.com\/cb:0e0_.b970\/w:300\/h:215\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/migflug.com\/jetflights\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/05\/F-22_27th-Raptor.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ml5psubhxdln.i.optimole.com\/cb:0e0_.b970\/w:768\/h:551\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/migflug.com\/jetflights\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/05\/F-22_27th-Raptor.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ml5psubhxdln.i.optimole.com\/cb:0e0_.b970\/w:1024\/h:735\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/migflug.com\/jetflights\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/05\/F-22_27th-Raptor.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3632\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">But how does this affect the raptor? We will first go over the Raptor\u2019s features before we draw any conclusions. The F-22 Raptor is a Stealth featuring fifth generation fighter built by Lockheed Martin and first presented by the United States\u2019 Air Force in 1997. It has a diamond shaped wing and has a Gatling gun at the right vertical stabilizer (just like the Eurofighter) capable of shooting 100 bullets per second (!). It does not feature an IRST system but instead puts its faith in the fact that no other fighter (except for F-35) has stealth yet and therefore it only needs normal radar. It also features its unique Thrust Vectoring which gives the pilot the possibility to change the direction of the exhausts. This gives the Raptor really good turning-capabilities.<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Who is really the best?<\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Now to the main point of this article: Is the German Eurofighter Typhoon superior to the F-22 Raptor? The topic has been widely debated; many say that the EF Typhoon would out battle the raptor any day, whilst the Americans, of course, claim the opposite. The most used argument by the Eurofighter lovers is that during the Red-flag (an American training exercise) in 2012 the EF typhoon scored a number of kills versus the Raptor. After the exercise, the media naturally presented the story from one angle, as it would sell more newspapers if the \u201csupreme F-22\u201d was shot down. However, this is what the pilots (of both sides) said:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>&#8220;I did review the HUD footage, a lot of gunshots from the F-22&#8217;s to the Eurofighters and not a whole lot coming back&#8221;<\/em> &#8211; Unnamed USAF pilot.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Whilst a German pilot named Marc Gr\u00fcne said: <em>&#8220;As soon as you get to the merge \u2026 the Typhoon doesn\u2019t necessarily have to fear the\u00a0F-22\u201d.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">There would be no point in putting too much emphasis on the pilot\u2019s quotes, they are naturally biased, but what is obvious is that the F-22 has some weaknesses in close combat. The reason for this is that the F-22 has its thrust vectoring to turn quickly and this gives it an advantage in a dogfight, but if it does not score a kill then, it is at a significant disadvantage. This is because once the Raptor has used its thrust vectoring it has lost a lot of speed, which tremendously increases the change of the Eurofighter to score the kill.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">So sure, the Eurofighter might be better than the Raptor in a dogfight, but what we should not forget is that in real battles there are not very often dogfights, practically there almost never are. This means that in a real fight it stands between the Raptor\u2019s radar and the Typhoon\u2019s P.I.R.A.T.E. Then we have to look at the different ranges of weapons and radars:<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Fighter:<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">Raptor:<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">Typhoon:<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Radar\/Infrared tracking range:<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">~220km<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">~65km(because the Raptor has heat dissipating panels)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Practical radar range(this means at what range the weapons are capable of hitting(still not 100%) ie. at what range the targets are well designated):<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">~180km<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">~50km<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Weapon range:<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">~75km<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">~50km<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">Countermeasures:<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">Flares<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">Chaff(like flares but versus radar instead)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">In the table above we see that the Raptor is actually superior to a Eurofighter Typhoon in a real air-to-air battle. The 75km range of the Raptor\u2019s Aim-120 AMRAAM missiles mean that it can choose to engage whenever it wants; even before the EF even knows there is an F-22 in the area!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">To conclude this article we can say that the Raptor is still the king of the sky, even though it in dogfights has found a real competitor in the German Eurofighter Typhoon. But it also needs to be said that the EF Typhoon, a multi-role fighter almost beats the raptor, even though the Raptor was only built for one thing &#8211; Air to Air combat.<\/p>\n<p><iframe hcb-fetch-image-from=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Ud-ACmjjr1U\" title=\"F-22 Raptor vs Eurofighter Typhoon: Who Would Win?\" width=\"1080\" height=\"608\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Ud-ACmjjr1U?feature=oembed\"  allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>Additional Reading:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"MiG-29 Flights in Russia\" href=\"https:\/\/migflug.com\/flights-prices\/fly-mig-29-in-russia\/\">MiG-29 Flights<\/a>\u00a0in Russia<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Fighter jet generations \u2013 A bit of military aviation history\" href=\"https:\/\/migflug.com\/jetflights\/fighter-jet-generations\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Fighter Jet Generations<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; the history of the fighter jet<\/li>\n<li>The\u00a0<a title=\"Will UAVs displace fighter jets soon?\" href=\"https:\/\/migflug.com\/jetflights\/uav-replace-fighter-jets\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">end of the manned fighter jet?\u00a0<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Sources:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Fulghum, D.A and M.J. Fabey.\u00a0&#8220;F-22: Unseen and Lethal: Raptor Scores in Alaskan Exercise&#8221; (data collected on 2014-05-15)<\/li>\n<li>Youtube Documentary.\u00a0&#8220;ASRAAM&#8221;. Science &amp; Technology. (data collected on 2014-05-15)<\/li>\n<li>Defenceindustrydaily.com &#8211; F-22 Raptor: Capabilities and Controversies (data collected on 2014-05-15)<\/li>\n<li>Flightglobal.com \u2013 F-22 vs Eurofighter BFM in Alaska (data collected on 2014-05-15<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor has long been claimed to be the best air superiority fighter ever built, even before it was completed, American officials claimed that with its stealth technology it would outperform any fighter that stood in its way without even being seen. But has this changed since its introduction in 1997? https:\/\/youtu.be\/CneqtCyA6zg [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1872,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_yoast_wpseo_focuskw":"Eurofighter Typhoon vs F-22 Raptor","_yoast_wpseo_title":"P.I.R.A.T.E vs Raptor - Eurofighter Typhoon vs F-22","_yoast_wpseo_metadesc":"Eurofighter Typhoon vs F-22 Raptor: How does the German 4.5-gen Typhoon compare to the American 5th-gen stealth fighter in close combat and BVR scenarios?","_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","editor_notices":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[665,7,664,16],"tags":[173,189,319,340,438,446,503,573],"class_list":["post-1860","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-aviation-world","category-fighter-jets","category-military-aviation","category-stealth-fighter-jets","tag-eurofighter","tag-f-22","tag-lockheed","tag-martin","tag-pirate","tag-raptor","tag-stealth","tag-typhoon"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - 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